Come And Read All About Hb And Masive Server

diuuude · Post by **diuuude** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:56 am

-Jim- wrote: Honestly this idea is already being put into effect..... Secrets has hit over 240+ people and Cel hits about 150 .....The two server might just becoming part of the same network shortly ....you guys should look at ever site .... Cough www.helbreathx.net ..... and i cant say that 2 servers ...#1 and #2 are joining it
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Loco msn me soon !

hum... Q never did anything good... i don't think he'll start now with his server... He will just use the "HBx" name to get other server owners' players on his.

His idea's not really bad but he want to much to become the "absolute almighty god of HB"...

kahn · Post by **kahn** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:43 am

Qi is working on some now and kool idias as far as i read on hit fourm but i theink if dude and juggalo do thier owen theing they can smoke the compitison

secret olny got good falowing beasa fresnd tell frends to join relly it i dont see why secret haz players at all lol iv seen a lot better servers with 5 ppl on that they have with their 100+ 200+ 500+ what ever they got

i know that bwteen juggalo and dude theirs smothing soilid theas guys have enught pointioncal to trun a all other servers up side down i hope that they decide to go and make their owen server and not Join some 1 elses team becas i think that u 2 can have number 1 server and as i have said befor i can pay for the decated server so hostin is not a prob juggalo knows me ok kinda weve talked

Tafka12 · Post by **Tafka12** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:28 pm

if this works i can give my the "high lvl and stats and exp" server then i can put my server files into the apocalypse if you want... it is 410/500 and it takes like 5 hours to get yourself full... i made new items and edited magics a little bit...
so if you want i can put my work into it if it works...

-Jim- · Post by **-Jim-** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:59 pm

kahn no offense to you but i cant read your post. Sorry i get a little bit of it but not all of it .

A great server isnt made by a great coder. Although it helps. The best server should have the largest community and the people in the community should agree that they have fun playing the server.

Thats were HB2 went wrong. Great Ideas but to technical.

I think HB players are like senior citizens. They dont like change. And if there is change it has to be minor or if its major it must be taken very slow .

Just a lil words of wisdom

snoopy81 · Post by **snoopy81** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:11 pm

A server that gather many server owners that haven't alot of peoples in their servers. This server would be splitted in two sub-servers : Apoc and Aba servers.

Every body will agree if you want to meld your server in his.
3 times I was asked to meld my server (EP) with another one. But as a matter of fact they wanted to use my files and increase they player number by adding player currentlly playing EP.

The Abaddon Server would be USA like (lvl 180, stats 200, skills goes a little faster than USA, exp a little faster than INT, drops improved).

Why not, for basic or PvP players, nice.

The Apoc Server would be a high lvl / stats / exprate server, for massive pvp and events with many peoples.

Why not, but that's the concept some people want !
Not many others.

I have many ideas for new items, new skills, new classes, new spells, new events but i won't code it for noob servers with less than 50 average players.

Alot people have alot good (or not) ideas, few are able to code them.
And, what is a noob server?
...A server with few players?
...A server with no coder?
...A short lived server ?

i'm tired of playing noob servers wich last for less that 2 months !!

Oh? but is there some servers around that's more than 1 year old (without wipe) ?

<span style='color:purple'>Seriouslly, there is many reasons why people host servers.
The more easy will it be, the more servers you'll find around; and those servers will last very short with the fewer players...
Anyways, every serious coder/admin pushes the game in some direction the one he prefeers, and of course if will dislike what other hosters are dooing.
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I already posted on this subject, and I don't think things have evoluted.
Anyways, HB private history is full of people asking for a big unifyed server. The only problem, is that they dream of their own prefered kind of HB...
After knowing all I now know, playing with all fixes and improvements I add to my server, I would not be able at all to revert to the old looking HBint style.....

diuuude · Post by **diuuude** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:27 pm

I agree with you snoppy, but you're one of the few hosters with many ideas that you can code and that your players love. EP is a very special server with alot of new features and almost all players where in from beginning of Revival. They play your server cuz they really like the new bg you added in it and not only to try their new hack program like on many other private servers.

For me, a noob server if a server hosted by a noob... A noob that played on many other servers and never had a good char. Always deleting his crappy char and beginning a new one. Always being killed by other players and called noob whenever and wherever he used to play. Noobs are only hosting for being an almighty GM in a server and that's why such a kind of server can't be a long lasting one.

I'm no more on this project. I'm now coding my own 3.51 client. When it'll be done, i'll release it to deserving people that contributed alot to the hb community and i'll be done with hb.

I'll maybe help some coders sometimes but nothing else.

locobans · Post by **locobans** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:15 pm

diuuude wrote: I agree with you snoppy, but you're one of the few hosters with many ideas that you can code and that your players love. EP is a very special server with alot of new features and almost all players where in from beginning of Revival. They play your server cuz they really like the new bg you added in it and not only to try their new hack program like on many other private servers.

For me, a noob server if a server hosted by a noob... A noob that played on many other servers and never had a good char. Always deleting his crappy char and beginning a new one. Always being killed by other players and called noob whenever and wherever he used to play. Noobs are only hosting for being an almighty GM in a server and that's why such a kind of server can't be a long lasting one.

I'm no more on this project. I'm now coding my own 3.51 client. When it'll be done, i'll release it to deserving people that contributed alot to the hb community and i'll be done with hb.

I'll maybe help some coders sometimes but nothing else.

So that means you leaving hb completly, after you finish your client coding... :unsure:

diuuude · Post by **diuuude** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:21 pm

locobans wrote: So that means you leaving hb completly, after you finish your client coding... :unsure:

I think i'll leave completly... but thats not sure.

I dont know why but i love this ugly, unfinished, bugged, old game... I will maybe continue coding some stuff for it but i won't release anymore to everybody.

locobans · Post by **locobans** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:51 am

diuuude wrote:
locobans wrote: So that means you leaving hb completly, after you finish your client coding... :unsure:
I think i'll leave completly... but thats not sure.

I dont know why but i love this ugly, unfinished, bugged, old game... I will maybe continue coding some stuff for it but i won't release anymore to everybody.

So that means that you and juggalo2 wont' be.,... :blink:

juggalo2 · Post by **juggalo2** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:49 am

i will still be but wont be release shit

Tafka12 · Post by **Tafka12** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:23 am

hm... that sux if you quit... at least i can compile HG's now :rolleyes: but who will tell me all these codes i need noo

juggalo2 · Post by **juggalo2** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:17 pm

Tafka12 wrote: hm... that sux if you quit... at least i can compile HG's now :rolleyes: but who will tell me all these codes i need noo

learn to code then no just make hgserver learn how to make ur own commands and shit

Tafka12 · Post by **Tafka12** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:37 pm

OMFG... don't tell me to learn C++... maybe i don't want to learn... i have a life too, i don't learn freaking computer languages in my free time!

snoopy81 · Post by **snoopy81** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:22 am

I dont know why but i love this ugly, unfinished, bugged, old game... I will maybe continue coding some stuff for it but i won't release anymore to everybody.

I could tell the same !

If a real, serious HB unification attempt arouse, I could be part of it, but I don't think that only two servers who represent all HB faces and concepts. Anyways such a project would have to take into account my HB concept if I would join off course.

My concepts:
- Low max level, high max stats, medium xp level (lvl 180 HBint mages all look the same as will all lvl180 wars, on EP project there is many potent character at max level, and the is no "ultimate character", you can enjoy a Fencer, a GiSworder or a Ultra Heavy war or Barbarian, all have different advantages and drawbacks)

- Controled PvP level.
The basic idea is that some players don't like PvP, and even is they may sometimes feel the danger of been hunted, they may keep the possibility not to be bothered all the time by PvPers. ( I saw to many noob players leaving HB after a few days, because of loosing every nice item they coud gather to high lvl PvPers)

- Serious and evoluting server. The game must improve, the would-be hackers must be kept away, some new features must be added sometimes (not too often).
But a new feature/spell/item must be a real new thing, not just some more powerfull thing rendering useless previous feature/spell/item... and must not impair the game's balance.

I'm fully aware that this concept is not shared by everybody, and even not a majority of players/hosters around.
I guess you understand why I, as many players (not all) of EquilibriumProject could not think about some merging with a server without approaching concept and features.

bone-you · Post by **bone-you** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:13 pm

snoopy81 wrote:I could tell the same !

Might I point you in the direction of HBx? In the very least read the things I plan on doing with it. Perhaps it will interest you.